Musk v. Altman: Much ado about nothing
Musk v. Altman: Much ado about nothing

Today I’m talking with Liz Lopatto, who spent the last month covering the Musk v. Altman trial in all its chaos. You’ll hear her describe the courthouse as a “zoo” and explain that there were protests of one kind or another happening outside every day. Both Elon Musk and Sam Altman are big personalities, and […]

Exclusive: Jonah Peretti explains why he sold BuzzFeed
Exclusive: Jonah Peretti explains why he sold BuzzFeed

Today, I’m talking with Jonah Peretti, who is, technically, the CEO of BuzzFeed — although that will be coming to an end very soon. Just days before we spoke, Jonah agreed to sell 52 percent of BuzzFeed for a total of $120 million to Byron Allen, who owns The Weather Channel, a number of broadcast […]

How companies weaponize the terms of service against you
How companies weaponize the terms of service against you

Today, I’m talking with Brendan Ballou, founder of the Public Integrity Project and author of a new book, called When Companies Run the Courts, about the rise of forced arbitration. Brendan’s actually been on the show before — his previous book, Plunder, was about private equity taking over huge swaths of American life, and that conversation […]

Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with them
Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with them

My guest today is longtime friend of the show Joanna Stern. You all know Joanna: she is the former senior personal technology columnist for The Wall Street Journal, a former Decoder guest host, one of my cofounders here at The Verge, and also just one of my very closest friends. I mention that because Joanna […]

Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — and himself — with AI
Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — and himself — with AI

Today, I’m talking with Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi. It’s become something of an annual tradition to have Dara join us in the studio when he comes to New York for Uber’s big GO-GET event every year, and it’s always a lot of fun. The big news this year is that Dara is really starting to […]

How to win — and lose — Decoder
How to win — and lose — Decoder

This interview has been lightly edited for length and clarity.  Hello and welcome to Decoder, Nilay’s show about big ideas and other problems. This is Nick Statt, senior producer, and I’m joined by host and very occasional guest, Nilay Patel. Nilay, welcome back to your own show. Hello. I hate being the guest. Now, you […]

That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks
That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks

Today, I’m talking with Jennifer Scanlon, who is the CEO of UL Solutions. That’s Underwriters Laboratories – you know, the UL logo listed on all your electronics? That symbol means it’s been tested and found safe in a variety of ways. UL’s been around for 100 years. It started as a way for insurance companies […]

THE PEOPLE DO NOT YEARN FOR AUTOMATION
THE PEOPLE DO NOT YEARN FOR AUTOMATION

Today on Decoder, I want to lay out an idea that’s been banging around my head for weeks now as we’ve been reporting on AI and having conversations here on this show. I’ve been calling it software brain, and it’s a particular way of seeing the world that fits everything into algorithms, databases and loops […]

Canva’s CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise software
Canva’s CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise software

Today, I’m talking with Melanie Perkins, founder and CEO of Canva, a popular online design tool. I always enjoy talking with Melanie. She was last on the show a couple of years ago, just as the AI revolution was coming to the worlds of art and design. At the time, Canva had escaped a lot […]

Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman’s ‘unconstrained’ relationship with the truth
Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman’s ‘unconstrained’ relationship with the truth

Today on Decoder, I’m talking with Ronan Farrow, one of the biggest stars of investigative reporting working today. He broke the Harvey Weinstein story, among many, many others. And just last week, he and co-author Andrew Marantz published an incredible deep-dive feature in The New Yorker about OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, his trustworthiness, and the […]